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There was a big Saturday night rave occuring (big by Brisbane's standards
anyway)My friend and I due to being short of money were unable to buy any
chemicals so we decided to give nutmeg a whirl.We wandered up to the local'healt
health food store where we purchased two different types of nutmeg.
The whole nutmeg was then ground down to a fine powder.I decided to try
the batch from Indonesia while my friend opted for the stuff from Sri Lanka.
My Indonesian Nutmeg was of a lighter colour where my friend's was a dark
rich colour.This was the main reason he chose it, he later stated.
We both consumed it at 6.30 pm since I had read on the network that it took
up to 5 hours to come on. Bullshit to say the least , after the consumption
of 3 tablespoons each I started to feel a bit drunk within 20 minutes.
Within 1 hour I felt really drunk, my speech was slurred , I could not walk
in straight line and generally felt fucked.What was I going to feel like
in 4 hours? This thought scared me.One hour passed and I started to feel more
energetic , the phone rang and I answered it knowing it would be my friend.
My friend was on the line telling me he felt really stoned and had totally
lost it in front of his parents just previously.Since I would be meeting him
in about 1 hour I got ready to go.When I arrived at his house to go to the
rave I was feeling darn good. The nutmeg was acting like virtually every
drug I have ever taken. I had all the effects of alcohol , the increased
confidence as well as all the others. My thought process changed as well
with me coming up with some weird abstract shit, that always happens when
I have a smoke.By about 10 pm I was peaking, I was having mild hallucinations
and quite good ones if I closed my eyes. Nutmeg was also a very funny drug
My friend and I were laughing uncontrollably and could not get into the music
as much as we have liked to. I started dancing but had to quit since I was
laughing at people on the dance floor. I quit before I got my head kicked in.
By 12 pm the spin was just as intense as it was 2 hours earlier , and my
face started to show the signs. My eyes were so red and I could not keep them
open , I generally looked wasted.My friend was doing unreal , he was sitting
in a corner laughing hysterically looking like an asylum patient.
By 2 am the intensity had not declined and I was getting really tired of the
spin. Minutes later my friend ran out of the rave with me following as soon
as possible. I managed to see him throw up and pass out.(NO shit)
I thought this was going to last as long as LSD but I was wrong , the nutmeg
spin lasted longer.I left the rave at 6am still spinning off my dial.My
friend was still outside although he had crawled 10 metres to be found
sleeping under a tree.The next day was a blur as had been the night before.
My friend who is postman , did not go to work on Monday. Took an extra
2 hours to do his run on Tuesday(Got in huge trouble) and rode his bike
into an embankment on Wednesday spilling all the mail onto a main road.
He did not straighten up until Friday. I was completely straight on
Tuesday.All in all I quite liked nutmeg but hte intensity was too much,
the feeling generated could not be defined, but fucked comes in to mind a lot
I think I will stick to E's but they are damn hard to come by lately.

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    The Natural Highs FAQ made Nutmeg sound like a substance
definitely worth avoiding, but after talking to a friend of mine, I
decided to give it a try.  It didn't do much, but I was extremely groggy
for the remainder of the following day (something I didn't relate to the
Nutmeg for quite some time)...

    I didn't give up, however, and I decided that I had a neat
alternative to watching the Super Bowl...  I kept a little account of
what happened - it reads as follows:

January 31, 1993 -

        4:35 P.M. : I toss enough nutmeg in my mouth to make closing
it difficult (due to a snap of the wrist that was a bit more zealous
than I'd planned).  Ice water as a chaser (that -has- to be relatively
safe).

        5:05 P.M. : Another 3/4 tbsp or so, and water.

        5:20 P.M. : Felt like about a tablespoon this time.  I've been
eating quite a few itty bitty rice cakes, due to hunger.

        5:35 P.M. : Effectively finished off my bottle of nutmeg...  I
barely coaxed down 2 more mouthfuls of about 1/2 tbsp each.  Let's
assume about 3.75 tbsp over the past hour.

        6:13 P.M. : Mild headache

        8:00 P.M. : Slightly dizzy, especially when walking.

        8:51 P.M. : Unbelievably dizzy, and my hearing is indefinate.
I feel soooo heavy.  I am sinking constantly, and my vision is slowed.
Neat. Pleasant.  Relaxed.

        9:08 P.M. :  Same as above, but I am spinning, also.  This is
still very relaxing and peaceful.  My head is swimming especially, and
my motions feel much different than I am used to - sort of as if the
motions are dragging behind the limbs that are moving.

        9:20 P.M. : Just got off telephone - my short-term memory is
virtually nonexistant - I couldn't repeat something I'd said 10
seconds ago.  I had been watching Acidwarp, and - wow.  It was
unbelievable.  Somehow my vision seems amplified.  I noticed patterns
I'd never seen before, and I felt like I was "in" many of them.  I am
spinning in 10 ways at once, slowly. On my way to bed.


February 1, 1993 -

        6:05 A.M. : I wake up, with a bit of a headache, and a mild
spinning sensation.  I'm a bit tipsy, a little less balance than I'd
like, but I'm not moving inefficiently.

        6:06 P.M. : Almost all the effects are gone, I had cottonmouth
pretty bad all day, and I was weak - not tired, but weak, and my head
was never quite still.  Not at all unpleasant, just a bit of an
inconvenience.


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I went back and edited that a tad, because a few of the errors I made
were embarassing - I dropped some punctuation, spelling, even a word or
two...

    Anyhow, I really enjoyed this.  I used pre-ground nutmeg, bought
relatively recently...  It's not something I plan to use regularly, but
I have some whole nutmeg I plan try try freshly-ground...  I've also
heard good things about mixing it with mace.  I never felt sick, apart
from certain times during the hangover on Monday (I had P.E. that day at
school - somewhat nasty, I'll admit.)

    For thsoe of you that missed it, "Acidwarp" (which I referred
to) is this wonderful PC VGA kaleidescope program written by Noah
Spurrier.  I always liked it, but I am definitely glad I thought to
watch it while I was on the nutmeg.  Also - I went to sleep listening to
music (Skinny Puppy, actually..)  That was nifty, as I heard things
differently.  Most of the new things I heard were in the higher ranges,
which made the entire CD sound different.  I noticed some spoken words
I'd never heard before and can't find again - either they're not meant
to be heard consciously, or I was putting it there myself.

    The only unpleasant part of this at all was the hangover, and
that was even kind of nice - it was refreshing to have something to do
at school...  I found that I felt as if I was falling, most of the time.
 If I leaned to the side, I kept going that way for quite some time.  If
I leaned to the left, and then the right, I kept falling in both
directions for quite some time.  I would have to say that this was, all
together, a positive experience.  Anyone else have a story to share?

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I tryed Nutmeg a few months ago, about 3 Tb worth all at once with a cold
milk to wash it down. Took about 2 hours to kick in and felt like a big
pot buzz but with the dizzyness one gets after drinking too much, very
prone to giggle at one point. I have no visuals like say LSD but I did
seem to like to view colorful patterns (this book on fractals I have was
nice to look at) my short term memory was impared, but not too extreme

The next day I was in a daze, if any of you out there ever want to try
this make shure it's a friday, vacation, or you have extra sick days
because I wouldn't suggest you go to work/school after doing nutmeg I
had school the next day, real lousy like walking in your sleep, It wasn't
bad per say, but way too much thinking and walking then I was in the mood
for.

but overall I give nutmeg a thumbs up, didn't feel sick once, well I felt
ill downing it though .. very icky, the high has it's nice points and
when it was over no trouble getting to sleep (prepare to CRASH hard after
wards, and sleep like a log) unlike acid

have fun

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I've tried nutmeg once, years ago.  Clueless as to how much my friend and
I took, but we tried it with everything; water, milk, soda, straight, and
it tastes like shit no matter how you take it.  Afterward...nothing.  The
night went by and nothing happened.  However,  when I woke up in the
morning, the walls were breathing for several minutes.  My friend reported
spider webs covering the floor of the classroom he was in.  Other than
that...nothing.

My two cents...it's not worth it.

Safe and happy travels.

Peace

Steve

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From: [e-mail] (Edward Martin Hallissey)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Nutmeg doesn't work
Date: 13 Feb 1994 00:02:46 GMT
Message-ID: <2jjqn6$[e-mail]>

Hey - whoever's been posting things here that said Nutmeg can get you fucked up
was full of shit.  i ate 8 whole nutmegs in two hours and 15 minutes -- the
last four i ate were in a ten-minute time span, and that was 2 hours and 20 minutes ago, and i haven't felt a thing.  i wish people would post facts here, not
bullshit they heard from a FOAFOAFOAF.  For all those curious out there, let me
save you from wasting your time.  As for intoxicating effect, Nutmeg does

        J A C K    S H I T !!!!!!!!

so don't bother.


btw, smoking banana peels doesn't do shit either  :)


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everything sounds the same from space ******
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: [e-mail] (P. Blanchard)
Subject: Re: Nutmeg doesn't work
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 18:00:09 GMT

I did nutmeg one evening
I grated one nutmeg - it produced a helluva lot of stuff.
I mixed it with diet coke and drunk it down
I felt nothing

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From: [e-mail] (Jim I. Walker)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: my nutmeg experience explained (as well as I can)
Date: 27 Jun 1994 22:57:27 GMT
Message-ID: <2unlgo$[e-mail]>


              My Experience On Nutmeg



   I went to the local natural foods shop and bought a big bag
of pre-ground nutmeg.  It was about 2 bucks and there was a lot.
My friend and I were doing this together -- we each got a glass
of water, put 2 tablespoons in, stirred up the water, and tried
to drink it.  We realized it was hard to get down with one glass,
so we tried more, I forget how many it took.  Let me warn everyone
that the stuff tastes like absolute shit and it is *impossible*
to eat without water -- I think when you put it in your mouth,
it absorbs a lot of water or something, so you can't produce any
saliva to swallow it... that's just a theory and I'm not really
sure.  Anyways, by this point my friend got pretty sick to his
stomach -- luckily I felt no sickness.

   About 3 hours later, the effects began.  This was the second
major mind altering drug next to alcohol that I had done.  I told
my friend that I was feeling something and he said it must be
placebo.  I thought he might be right, but I realized as it got
stronger, no -- this was for real.. I was *definately* high. My
friend still didn't believe me.  The high must have been comparable
to marijuana, however at that time, I hadn't tried pot yet, so I
can't be sure; but I remember losing concentration a lot and paying
too much attention to pointless things.  We went into a video store
and I'd stare at a poster, and then realize that we were supposed
to be looking for a movie.  We got What About Bob.. payed for it,
and started to walk home.

   Still, my friend had no high, and he didn't for the rest of the
night -- I think I consumed a little more than him, because he was
to sick to have it all, but I don't think it was too much of a
difference.  By this time, my high had grown a lot.  My mind was
thinking in a network of thoughts;  worthless thoughts that all
seemed to fit together; well, I can't say worthless because I can't
quite remember exactly what they were.  But every 10 seconds I'd
have a new thought, and it would remind me of another thought I
just had, and another thought that reminded me of that, and so on..
these thoughts were linking together and forming some pattern, and
my mind was just thinking more and more and more thoughts..

   I don't remember how long this lasted.  I don't know if the next
stage was a continuum of this or if the thoughts went away.  It's
been 2 years since the experience so I can't quite remember.  But
by this time, we were home and the movie was plopped into the VCR.
As the moviewent on, I had no clue what was going on.  No concept
of the plot at all.  I didn't even know who Bob was.  I tried to
focus on the movie, but my mind just *couldn't* -- it was impossible
to comprehend.  My mouth was getting REALLY dry.  I got a glass of
water (or my friend got it for me, can't remember), I'd drink it,
and once it was done my mouth wasn't any better at all.  So I'd keep
drinking water -- to no avail.  I was getting hot and sweaty.  The
high now wasn't too pleasant.

   I think the movie was over when I decided to go upstairs and go
to sleep (this was at my friend's house), but I can't remember.  I
walked up the stairs... suddenly I was in his room (which is right
next to the top of the stairs) and then I was halfway up the stairs
and then I was in his room again -- it was like time was being
distorted.. imagine this:

    my experience of time
<-------------------------------------->
Event A     Event B    Event C

the above is this clipping of me walking up and down the stairs had I
not been experiencing this time hallucination. Below is what I really
perceived -- with the hallucination.

         my experience of time
<------------------------------------->
Event A     Event B    Event A    Event C    Event B

This time hallucination lasted about 15 seconds and was over.. INTENSE..
It freaked the hell out of me!  (Scientifically, what happened, is that
I remembered the past events (being at the top, middle, or bottom of the
stairs) so vividly that my mind actually relived them -- I read about it
about a year later... can't remember the name for the phenomena)

  So I ran downstairs as fast as I could and told my friend.  He helped
me walk upstairs so nothing would happen like me passing out and rolling
down the stairs and breaking my neck or something (exaddurated).. I went
upstairs and lay down... ahh...

   And then.. in the background.. there was this feeling.. no, a sound,
rather.. maybe a feeling... anyways it was this... "feelound" in the back
of my brain.. it gradually grew louder and more intense.. louder.. LOUDER..
And now it was so loud that it HURT my HEAD -- it got LOUDER and LOUDER
AND I COULDN'T STAND IT AND IT WAS SPLITTING MY BRAIN IN TWO -- IT WAS
SO INTENSE AND SO STRONG AND SO PAINFUL THAT I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO!!!!
AAAHHHH!!!!AHHHH!!!!!AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(and then i moved my head slightly)



silence.



   But the feelound came back.. and it grew.. and it GREW. AND IT GREW!!!
AND IT WAS TEARING MY BRAIN APART AGAIN -- AAAHHH!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and i twitched my head..

and it started, again, very silently.  And I twitched my head so it wouldn't
grow.. and I twitched my head.. over and over and over.. I kept twitching
my head so the horrible feelound would not take control of my sanity.. So
I kept twitching my head until I realized that I better get to sleep and
I couldn't get to sleep if I kept twitching my head like this..

   So the feelound came back.. it grew and GREW AND GREW AND GREW!!!!!!!!

twitch.

   no, I couldn't let it do that.  It would be easier to get to sleep by
twitching my head over and over than letting the feelound conquer my brain.
twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. it's 2 in the morning and I HAVE TO GET TO SLEEP!!
twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch..
twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch..
twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch..
twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch..
No!! I have to do SOMETHING!! ANYTHING!! I can't go on like this all night!!!
What can I do?  No -- my friend is asleep, and won't listen to me... anyways,
even if I told him, he couldn't do anything.. What would he do anyways, take me
to a hospital where they'd know I did drugs?  Tell his parents so they'd know
I did drugs?  No.. nothing can be done...... Nothin... it's so late, nothing
can be done... Oh my god, this sucks.  This really sucks big time.. I'll never
do any drug again.. NEVER NEVER NEVER... It's not worth it ... This SUCKS...
twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch..
twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch..
twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch..
twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch..
twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch..
twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch..
twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch..
twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch..
twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch..
twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch.. twitch..
etc. etc.. for so long I didn't think it would ever end.

   The next morning-- I was awake, my mom came to pick me up... I was really
zonked.  I felt spaced.  I still couldn't concentrate.. I now had to go to band
camp today.. well, my mom was taking me there and I saw my face in the mirror
and it was whiter than hell.. "Have you been drinking?", my mom asked.  "No."
I got to the high school band room and we took attendance, etc.. people wondered
why I was so pale.  I told some of them.  We got on the buses and I just sat in
my seat, completely out of it.  I didn't really talk to anyone the whole ride up..
We got there and it was a relief to have a room to be in.. but there were a lot
of responsibilities at band camp - not really the first day, though..

   But the second day came, and I was still in a dreamy/zonked/out-of-it/hangover.
I was lost.  I was confused.  I had to work on my music!!  My instructor explained
the mallet parts to me and I tried to do them well, but I didn't understand.. He'd
say something and I was lost.. What was wrong with me, he must have thought..

   The third day, still there, but less... the fourth day, basically gone, maybe
a little bit left.. And finally, I could continue with my life... No, I didn't keep
up with the idea that I should never do drugs.  I figured it was just nutmeg.  And
it was, basically.  I've always had strong reactions to drugs.. The first time I
smoked pot, it hit me like a 2x4 and I literally fell down -- or I spontaneously
lay down because the onset was so overwhelming and unexpected.  The second time I
did shrooms was my friend's first time, and interestingly enough, his experience
was stronger.  I had a hard time dealing with shrooms, mostly because of the
conditions in which I was.  But nutmeg's different -- it doesn't matter if it's
set or setting -- if you're going to have a bad reaction, you're going to have it,
at least if it's something like a feelound -- I wish I could have stopped the
feelound.. Maybe I could have just stood up and walked around and it would have
gone away because I'd be constantly moving.. But I was too zonked to even think
about that.. Twitching was easier, anyways.. but the overall experience wasn't
really worth it, even without the feelound.  The dry mouth, the 3 day hangover..
Personally, I'll never do nutmeg again in my life, I guess that goes without saying,
though.  If you DO decide to do it, have a mild tranquilizer (chemical that will
put you to sleep) on hand -- valerian root is a good one which you can get at many
natural foods stores.. or just plain sleeping pills.  If I just had sleeping pills,
I would have only had to go through 5 - 10 minutes of the feelound instead of a
whole hour or two (maybe it wasn't even half an hour, I don't know, I have no idea,
but it felt like eternity).  But my best advice is to go with other drugs (if any)
and find out about what the drug does before you do it!

--
 __              ,   , "The suppression of the natural human fascination with
/  \  '         /   / altered states  of consciousness and the present peril-
|__/_/_/\/\__ _(_(_/ ous  situation of all life on  earth are  intimately and
(_/                 causally connected." -Terence McKenna, *Food Of The Gods*

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From: <anonymous>
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Nutmeg
Date: 13 Aug 1994 17:17:34 GMT

[quoted text deleted -cak]

Doesn't seem likely.  I took 24 grams about a week ago, together with two
friends, and all of us are still fine.
I wouldn't suggest this to anyone, though - it was a bad experience to me.
First 1/3 of the high was fine, then things started getting really weird
(trails, closed-eyes hallicunations, disortion of time sense and
balance), and I got really sick.
The next day I slept all day, and then was a bit tired on Monday (I took
the (ground) nutmeg at about 4 pm saturday).  I was fine on Monday evening
and Tuesday.

(Do anybody know if I ought to go to a doctor and get a liver-checkup?
Wouldn't it be too late to do anything with any liver damage now, anyway?)


>Why take Nutmeg I ask you?  Acid is way better and 100% safe to your body.

Acid is probably safer, yes.  I have, however, not to date done any
illegal drug, and feel that a barrier would be broken if I did one.
This is a barrier that I don't really want to break, so I keep to legal
highs.


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From: [e-mail] (Jody David Gillis)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Nutmeg and Hops
Date: 1 Dec 1994 18:10:57 GMT
Message-ID: <3bl3jh$[e-mail]>

[quoted text deleted -cak]

I had a friend who ingested about a half a bottle of ground nutmeg sold in
a grocery store.  He had also heard that it produced hallucinogenic effects.
NOTHING HAPPENED.

The same friend later ingested an unknown amount of freshly ground nutmeg.
He reported in this order:
    1)  A detached feeling of consciousness
    2)  Mild auditory hallucinations
    3)  Mild visual hallucinations
I am only a "second-hand" source however.
(He reported NO feelings of nausea whatsoever)..

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Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: [e-mail] (Razorbrain)
Date: Thu,  8 Dec 1994 14:51:38 UTC
Subject: Re: Nutmeg.

[quoted text deleted -cak]

Are you sure about this? I have some experience with nutmeg:

One night, me and a buddy had been to town, and I got pretty drunk. In
addition my love-life went to hell that night (*sob*), so I was more than
a little depressed. So when I came home I ate two whole nutmegs, chewed'em,
and sat awake for about 2 hours (maybe a little less). No effects, except
that I thought the ceiling moved! (Which might be the alcohol, too!). So
I went to bed, and slept like a rock!

After about 12 hours of *deep* sleep, my mother came to wake me up.. I felt
really awful, but managed to get dressed, and lied down on the couch instead.
(BTW, my eyes looked horrible!!! VERY(!!) blood-shot!!) Then I really felt...
something! It felt like a strong hash-buzz, accompanied with an strange
euphoric feeling.. Very nice indeed, except for the gruesome headache...
(Which probably came from the alcohol, as well as the nutmeg). Otherwise I
felt great, just lying there, relaxing...

When watching TV my entire vision was somewhat distorted; It seemed like
the entire room was interlaced, flickering like crazy... I also had a
weird "reverb" in my head, sounds seemed to echo, although I couldn't hear
it!!

The buzz lasted the entire day!! I went to bed, and slept like a baby for
about 9-10 hours. The day after I awoke as good as new..


Does anyone have any info on if a nutmeg-buzz is altered when consumed
with alcohol?? I had no hallucinations or anything, but I might have
slept through that stage... I guess I'll try it again, without drinking!
Perhaps in a different dosage, but... I'll keep you informed (if I live
through it, that is! :)

I'm also looking for some nice nutmeg-recipes...

Thanks!

- Razorbrain, the Insanable

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From: gus_lanzas*@quickmail.apple.com (Gus Lanzas*)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs.psychedelics
Subject: How I have succesfully used nutmeg...
Date: 13 Dec 1994 20:42:19 GMT
Message-ID: <gus_lanzas*[e-mail]>

I have seen a few posts here about how people have had bad reactions to
nutmeg, etc.

A method I have perfected over the last few years has been to brew the
nutmeg into a tea-like drink.

You will need 10-12 nutmegs (whole nuts, not ground, although you can use
ground   nutmeg if you have a fine strainer).  You can buy these in the
spice section of lucky's or safeway.

Soak the nutmegs in water overnight, and then cut them into halves.  Save
the water you soaked them in!

Put the nutmeg halves and about 2 cups of water (use what you soaked them
in) in a saucepan.  Simmer on low heat for 3-4 hours, (you might need to
add a little bit more water as you go). When the water has turned a medium
brown color, strain the nutmegs out, let it cool, and then sweeten to
taste.

Drink 1-2 cups.

I have experienced mild visual hallucinations, and a definite "stoned"
feeling from this, and never had any adverse effects.  I have drank up to
5 or 6 cups of this brew at one sitting, but I have felt effects from just
one.

Try this whe taking mushrooms... KAPOW!

In my experience, ground nutmeg, when consumed dry, or dissolved in
something else, has some very bad side effects... nausea, vomiting,
cramps, and all the other fun stuff.

I hope this helps someone.  And if you are intending to flame me for some
odd reason, then, burn in a hell of your own devising forever...

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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: nutmeg
From: [e-mail] (Scott Meine)
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 94 03:55:00 -0600

[quoted text deleted -cak]

I remember when I was in the Boy Scouts (more years ago than I care
to admit) doing a heaping tablespoon full of powdered nutmeg one year
at summer camp. I didn't feel anything for an hour or two, but
eventually ended up with a very drunken, numb high. The last I could
remember was feeling extremely loaded, like a narcotic high, and
also beginning to trip. The next thing I knew, my friends were trying
desperately to wake me up the next morning. Everyone else had already
gotten their stuff packed and ready to go. My friends had managed to
keep the adult leaders (one of which was my father) away from my tent
and gotten my stuff packed for me. They said I spent most of the night
staggering around the camp, rambling incoherently and bitching about
my cot being full of gremlins. I was still numb and drugged feeling
for a day or two afterword. I don't know how close I was to a
lethal dose, but I never tried it again.

Scott

... (A)bort, (R)etry, (F)ail, (G)rab_Hammer
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From: [e-mail] (Zzzzz -- huh?)
Newsgroups: alt.hemp
Subject: Re: Nutmeg - Final Discussion
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: 31 Dec 94 18:53:48 GMT

[quoted text deleted -cak]

I was visiting in Boston and I happened to wander into some health
food store which sold whole nutmeg nuts.  I had heard about it so I
figured I'd try it.  When I brought it home, I completely grated
three fresh nuts into a bowl, which I then mixed with milk and
drank down.  It tasted pretty vile at first, but I got used to it
after a bit.  Nothing happened for about 5 hours, but then I
noticed some minor nausea and my vision was a little distorted.
(Kinda like it is after a little bit o' pot.)  Anyway, that
continued for about 2 more hours until the nausea became really
heavy.  My head started spinning and I sort of forgot what was
going on and why this was happening to me.  It wasn't exactly
enjoyable, more like having a really bad fever; being out of it is
fun, but not worth it for feeling shitty all over your body.  That
was about the peak of the experience.  After another 2 hours or so,
everything subsided and I was basically completely without short
term memory for the rest of the day.  The next 2 or 3 days I just
wanted to lie in bed and watch tv.

I would not recommend it to anyone.  The work involved (grating
nutmeg for some reason is kinda hard to do), drinking the stuff,
feeling massively sick to your stomach, and being disgustingly lazy
for the next few days is not worth the tiny buzz you get out of it.
 Stick to pot; it's MUCH more fun...

My opinion, not yours, I WANT it BACK!
                smile big time!
                    -Me

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From: [e-mail] (Damian Weston)
Subject: Re: Nutmeg
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 03:53:20 GMT

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I tried it. I got fresh, whole nutmegs - ground them up as best
I could without any sort of utensil to facilitate, and drank about 3
to 4 Tablespoons (let me tell you - it is much easier to put a bit of
dry nutmeg in your mouth and wash it down with water, rather than
drink soggy nutmeg). About 1 1/2 hours later I started getting a buzz
- not too heavy, but noticeable. An hour later, I was totally floored,
and crawled in to bed, and fell asleep almost immediately. I woke up
four hours later - when I tried to get up the room was spinning
horribly, so I put my head back down, and awoke 16 hours later - still
with a mild buzz (nut a terribly pleasant one, but not unpleasant, either).
I'm going to try it again - this ttime I'll try not to sleep through
the peak. My recomendation: try it, but make sure you have lots of
time, and no immediate responsabilities. I also suggest that you try
it with only one person with you, as it seemed that I was getting
rather irritable at the presence of others at the beginning and end of
the experience.

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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: [e-mail] (Lenny)
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 1995 18:37:44 UTC
Subject: Nutmeg Days (Daze)

Back in High school, 1970, I used nutmeg three or four times. I believe I
took 2 or 3 tablespoons mixed in orange juice.  I also took it once again in
1985 with a friend who wanted to try it.  Again, same amount in OJ. I
remember swallowing it was difficult, and there were alot of nutmeg burps.
the trip lasted about a day, and was sort of warped, weird, dreamlike. My
friend didn't like it at all.  She felt sick.  The only thing that makes me
nauseous are circular rides at fairs and smoking pot if I'm a little drunk.
 And I've also thrown up at the beginning of a morning glory trip.  Anyway,
when I find something I like, I do it alot. (thats why I've stayed away from
some drugs)  Nutmeg was too much a commitment, for too little alteration.

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From: [e-mail] (Maniac)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: nutmeg faq stinks...
Date: 13 Mar 1995 19:06:12 GMT
Message-ID: <3k2534$[e-mail]>

A couple of weeks ago I tried nutmeg..  Mixed about an ounce of the stuff
in with some lemonade and guzzled it down..  Tasted like shit.  Anyway,
nothing happened for about 5 hours.  After 5 hours I started to feel
something like a minor pot high that got gradually better and ended up
not quite as good as pot.  Felt high all night, and the next day I still
felt it but I also felt kind of sick all day.  I don't think I'd do it
again, the buzz didn't make up for the sick feeling all day..  Was kind
of like a hangover.  Maybe I just ate too much..  shrug

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From: [e-mail] (Mangar)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Nutmeg
Date: 25 Jan 1995 10:01:37 -0600
Message-ID: <3g5sl1$[e-mail]>

I've tried nutmeg once.  I took a around three tablespoons, and
nothing happened for about NINE HOURS.

I felt a little different, sort of "heavy" for a while and for about
30 minutes or so, I would get these strange flashes where it would
intensify for 10-20 seconds.  During those periods, it felt like there
was a plane (the flat kind) rotating around in my head.  Very peculiar
feeling.

When I closed my eyes, I would get very, very mild visuals--slightly
swirling and moving colors that weren`t as bright as one gets with pot,
and they weren't 3d like pot visuals are.

I didn`t have any nausea or other ill effects.

All in all, it was a worthless experience.  You have to choke the shit
down, and it takes forever to do anything, and it didn't do much (at
least to me).


Later,
Matt
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From: [e-mail] (Ryan Williams)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Nutmeg experiences
Date: 20 Mar 1995 20:14:58 +0930
Message-ID: <3kjmba$[e-mail]>

After reading a little into the use of NUTMEG as a drug I decided to try
it myself. A friend recommended a 10gram dose, so I purchased 3 10gram
packets from a supermarket. These sell for about 70cents (australian
price). So.......later at my girlfriend's house i downed 1 packet of
nutmeg using my "nutmeg" technique i discovered, which is fill mouth half
with water, place a teaspoon of nutmeg in mouth, swish around and SWALLOW!
Yerchhhh, tripping is a LITTLE easier....... Anyway, I took it at 6pm, and
still later at 9pm I was feeling no effects apart from tiredness.  BUT
upon waking I felt very strange, like I had gotten stoned about 1 hour
before. Hmmmmmm....maybe I didn't sleep enough. Anyway 3 days later I took
2 packets this time, (and also 1/4 bottle of Jim Beam), and 3 hours later
I was very tired, so I slept. Again, upon waking I had the same sensation
as before, although it seemed much more intense. This lasted the whole
day, which made life difficult as I had to study. Anyway this is my
experience with nutmeg. I still think getting stoned is better.


Ryan Williams
Adelaide University
Australia
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From: Amanda Cobb <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: nutmeg how? why?
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 18:35:04 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

[quoted text deleted -cak]

Well, not wanting to be left out, I tried it myself this past weekend.
Consumed approximately 31g and within about an hour or two started to
feel pretty good.  Was disoriented through most of the next day as well.
However, I never got any hangover type effect AT ALL! Maybe I'm just lucky.
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Kenneth Krabat)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: re: Nutmeg high?
Date: 31 May 1995 13:14:39 GMT
Message-ID: <3qhq3v$[e-mail]>

tried it a few times. Use a very fine grater, ex. a nutmeg grater, and
grate 1-3 nuts into 2 dl (20 cc's) of milk. Heat on "very low" for 15 to
30 minutes, until milk is reduced by half (if it burns, dump and start
over). Pour into glas, also the "nutmeg mush", and fill up to initial
amount. Drink all at once: Pour down your throat without tasting - it
tastes awfully bitter!!!! High by body chemestry and amount, plane in
about 2 hours, last up to 6-7 hours.
    The reason for heating is that the active ingredient, can't think
of the name, is oil based (reacts almost as THC) - and low heat is partly
due to the milk, partly so as not to have the active ingredient, can't
think of the name (hint hint), evaporate.
    Maybe use 1/2 a nut to begin with, and remember to eat a light
meal first, if you haven't eaten up to 6 hours previously. Don't mix with
alcohol.

-flywhale

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Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
From: Toxisoft <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 95 10:14:58 -700
Subject: Hi!

Hi!

Thougt that you might be interested.
There is a lot (well a bit anyway) talk about nut-meg.
I have actually got experiences from this "drug".

On 3 different occasions I have taken it.

The amount each time was about 20g ground up nut-meg (it doesnt taste verry
well .... ....) After a couple of hours the effect was starting to show (we
where 3 persons at the time) with euphoria, laughing dissines. After some
more hours i got hallucinations in form of the roof opening over my head and
letting a strange colourful universe into the room.. After a night sleap I
was still fealing a strange unreality sensation.

Hmmmm it lasted about 20-30 hours.

On another session i ate a "nut" and felt after a few hours like I've been
smoking pot (a lot of pot)....

Hmmmm I'm sorry for my poor spelling-abilities, but I hope you will
understand it anyway.  If you want I can right down a better report....

Sincerely.

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From: OTAKU <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Smoking Nutmeg
Date: Sun, 09 Jul 95 20:30:19 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

  After trying 2 eat nutmeg (mixed with milk) and throwing up, i thought it
  would be a better idea to smoke it. Read in a police drug book that it is
  possible 2 smoke the stuff. I smoked 1 'nutmeg spliff' and felt NO effect
  whatsoever, so does any1 know how many 'spliffs' on average i would need
  to smoke to feel any effect??

            [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Craig A. Johnston)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Smoking Nutmeg
Date: 10 Jul 1995 00:58:12 GMT
Message-ID: <3tptv4$[e-mail]>

[quoted text deleted -cak]

Ok, the active stuff you want is an oil.  This is what I did... I
extracted the oil and smoked it on a cigarette.  Seemed to work.  Don't
even recall what I used to do the extraction, but acetone will probably
work.  This is probably a better method of ingestion for the stuff, as it
is fairly toxic and you will be able to self-titrate much better smoking
rather than eating it.

From my experience, and those of many others, I'd be prone to say
"Don't bother", tho.  It wasn't too wonderful, as I recall, and other
reports seem to concur.

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Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: [e-mail]
Date: Thu,  3 Aug 1995 09:36:59 UTC
Subject: Nutmeg Tea

Well after trying to post for about 3 weeks now I am hope
this post gets through.

Here is the revised recipe for nutmeg tea.  Enjoy
and post the results of your experiments.


Nutmeg Tea Recipe
=================

Grind 6 nutmeg nuts (approx 30g or 1 ounce) into a powder.  I use
a coffee grinder.  If you don't have strainer just break the nuts
into large chunks using a mortal pestle.  I reccommend grinding.

Now chuck this into 750 ml of water (3 cups) and simmer without
boiling over a stove for 1 hour.  The water will be reduced by
about 30% so your end result will be approx 500 ml of tea.

After the one hour strain the nutmeg out and let the tea cool.
Then sweeten w/ honey (play around with this to see what
you like best) and drink.

Note: **IMPORTANT**  Do not cool the tea down to where it is noticably
cold (test it with your finger).  If it is noticably cold, and
there is a white precipitate on the sides of your cup re-heat the tea
and re-dissolve the white precipitate.  You will only get minimal effects
if you don't pay attention to this.

Sources:  Getting nutmeg is very easy, but getting it cost effectively
might be a bit trickier.  Get only whole nutmeg don't even waste your
time with the pre-ground stuff.  If you get your nutmeg at the supermarket
it will probably be about $5 / 1.5 oz.  This is ok I guess, but if you search
out your local herb stores you can find prices (at least in my area) that
are about $1/ oz.

Effects: They begin within 15 minutes and last (estimated) 3 or 4 hours.
It is very similiar to cannabis.

Please post the results of your nutmeg tea.  I would like to get a Tea
FAQ going and I need others experiences as well as my own.

Thank you for your interest.

-R

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From: [e-mail] (Jack Durst)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs.psychedelics,rec.drugs.psychedelics,alt.drugs
Subject: Nutmeg experiance
Date: 22 Aug 1995 08:25:16 GMT
Message-ID: <41c49c$[e-mail]>

    Tried nutmeg yesterday, boiled 2 tbs. in a liter of milk.
Watched TV and everything they said seemed preposterous.  The editing
looked *So* strange (Try "court TV")  It had a kind of warm, floaty
feeling.
    IMHO boiling it in milk is one of the best ways to take this
stuff, dosn't taste nearly as nasty, nor does it upset my stomach.  That,
and sprinkling it on a bunch of marajuana brownies, are my favorite ways
of taking nutmeg.  (Yes, it enchaces the MJ)

Thanks,
    Jack Durst
[e-mail]

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From: Gus wilson <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.drugs.psychedelics
Subject: NUTMEG SHIT ME UP!!!!!!!
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 14:03:19 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I recently took a hit of nutmeg and to put it mildly ,I was WELL FUCKED!!
I bought a 52g jar of ground nutmeg and divided it up into two mugs of
hot chocolate.  One mug was for my mate, who promptly refused when he
sipped his half of the rancid mixture.  Not wanting to waste it, i
persevered and gulped it down in three sickening stages,whilst holding my
nose(it was that bad!). I think i must have consumed approx 22gs. This was
about 2.30pm...

We then headed up town to do some shopping and returned about 5.30pm.
At this time my lungs became very sensitive and as i smoked i could
feel all the shit and crap that was lining my lungs,causing me to
sporradically cough.  I have had this sensation before on acid so i
wasnt too worried.  at this staged i felt slightly stoned and sort of
drunk but it was only a mild sensation..Then the shit hit the fan!!

About 6.30pm ,as i laid on my bed watching my mates play doom ,all of a
sudden my heart rate crept up to about 130bpm and just continued to
pound away....with each thought of "fuck my heart cant take much more
of this " a sort of numbness spread out form my left side and enveloped
my heart region.  At this point i was shit scared and told my mates to
get an ambulance but they just said "im not doing it!" and passed the
phone to and fro.  I just lay there unable to move as a new sensation
hit me.  It felt as if i had a heavy weight pressing on my heart ,it
was like heavy hardback book tipped on one corner sitting on my chest,
if you can get the comparison.  At this stage i thought i was going to
die and just waited for my heart to eventually overload.  This
continued for about two hours ,with me in the meantime trying to take
deep breaths to relax myself and slow it down.  My friends soon
departed and i just continued to lay on my bed watching tv.  Before
these events were set in motion i had been awake for about 20 hours and
now at 8.00pm, i was hitting 26 hours.

 I started to slowly drift asleep and at this stage i thought "if i
fall asleep ill never wake up."  So i kept myself awake until about
11.00pm.  During this final period it felt like i was feeling the
effects of every drug i have tried all at once but only mildly, if you
can understand that!  Also,as i watched tele i kept having deja vu
about the things i was seeing ,thinking i saw them earlier on breakfast
tv(The Big breakfast advert clips to be precise!)WEIRD ,HUH!!

Finally i soon fell asleep and woke up the next day..Phew!!  i must
admit it was an experience ,but not one ill try again in a hurry!!

Could someone tell me if what went wrong? Did i push the limit with my
heart?  I mean could i have had a heart attack?
I apologise about the length of this post but i had to share my
experience with you!!!
             CHEERS!!!

                             <GUS>
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